altmuslim this week - december 22, 2008 - This week, a successful Hajj in a city you won't recognise within a decade. Also, Obama reaches out to the Muslim world and American Muslims reach out to Obama's new favourite pastor Rick Warren (who reaches out to a lesbian rock star at the same time).
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The preacher and the pop star - What happens when you put together a Muslim convention, an evangelical preacher, and a (lesbian) Grammy-award winning rock star? The answer is an extraordinary and historic day.  (December 27, 2008)
Your second Muslim life - Finland's Muxlim has launched a trial version of Muxlim Pal, an online virtual world geared towards the "Muslim lifestyle." But can one attract those sympathetic to Muslims while repelling those antagonistic to them?  (December 11, 2008)
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altmuslim review 030 - Free speech - is it something Muslims can live with? In this episode, we talk about how Muslims cope with (and benefit from) free speech in Western societies. Also, an extended interview with Jewel of Medina author Sherry Jones discussing her controversial book. (October 10, 2008)
altmuslim review 029 - A vibrant Muslim media could have an opportunity to restore balance to the Muslim public image - if it can get on its feet. In this episode, we explore the state of the Muslim media. Also, an interview with the creator of "Muslim Cafe", Navid Akhtar. (July 5, 2008)
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Recent and upcoming talks and offsite articles by altmuslim contributors
Shahed will be speaking about Muslims in the political process at the 8th annual Texas Dawah Convention in Houston, Texas (December 27, 2008)
Skyscraping ambition for Mecca, Ali Eteraz, The Guardian (UK), Comment is Free (December 18, 2008)
Zahed will be leading a technology workshop for European Muslim professionals at the Salzburg Global Seminar, Salzburg, Austria (November 16-20, 2008)
Zahed will be a keynote speaker at the inaugural meeting of the Network of European Muslim Technology Entrepreneurs, in Madrid, Spain (November 14, 2008)
Shahed will be a featured panelist at Red Faith/Blue Faith: Religion in the 2008 Election and Beyond at the Center for American Progress in Washington, DC (November 7, 2008)
Let the Global Islamic Conspiracy Begin, Ali Eteraz, Jewcy, (November 5, 2008)
Zahed will be a guest on Press TV's Islam & Life, hosted by Tariq Ramadan, speaking on French and American Muslim experiences (November 3, 2008)
Zahed will be a guest on Irish broadcaster RTE's Spectrum radio show, speaking about Barack Obama and the Muslim factor in the US presidential election (November 1, 2008)
Shahed will be a guest on the nationally syndicated radio show Interfaith Voices, speaking about the "otherization" of American Muslims (October 23, 2008)
Powell's remarks rebut the idea of Muslims as political kryptonite - Wajahat Ali, The Guardian (UK), Comment is Free (October 22, 2008)
Today's Boo Radley: Muslim Americans - Wajahat Ali, The Washington Post (October 20, 2008)
The Republican red scare, Wajahat Ali, The Guardian (UK), Comment is Free (October 11, 2008)
Heritage was mixed a long time ago - Irfan Yusuf, Sydney Morning Herald (September 30, 2008)
Shahed will be a guest on BBC Radio 4's " Sunday" programme speaking about the Jewel of Medina controversy (September 28, 2008)
Dangerous liaisons, Wajahat Ali, The Guardian (UK), Comment is Free (September 27, 2008)
Another attack - in the name of whose Islam? - Irfan Yusuf, The Age (Australia) (September 22, 2008)
Violence against women won't stop until men speak out - Irfan Yusuf, New Zealand Herald (September 12, 2008)
Shahed will be participating in a panel discussion, Sourcing Islam, at the Religion Newswriters Association conference in Washington, DC (September 20, 2008)
Muslims have nothing to fear from this book - Shahed Amanullah, The Guardian (UK), Comment is Free (September 9, 2008)
Rushdie is no believer in free speech - Irfan Yusuf, The Age (Australia) (August 8, 2008)
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Media appearances and analysis featuring altmuslim editors
Domestic crusader - An associate editor of the publication AltMuslim.com—“it’s neither too apologetic nor too antagonistic”—Wajahat exhorts wealthier American Muslims to invest in their own future by creating think tanks and scholarships in art and media instead of collecting luxury cars. “We have to break out of our culturally isolated bubble,” he says.
(October 11, 2008)
National publisher kills Spokane journalist’s book - [Amanullah] sent e-mails to about 200 graduate students in Islamic studies, telling them of Spellberg's "frantic" call and asking if they had heard about the novel. "What I got back was a collective shrug of the shoulders," says Amanullah. "The thing that is surreal for me is that here you had a non-Muslim write a book, and you had a non-Muslim complain about it, and a non-Muslim publisher pull the book." (August 20, 2008)
Self censoring Muslims - "But Amanullah says he never wanted the book pulled. 'I'm upset the book wasn't published,' he said, 'not because I agree or disagree with the book.' For him, 'I don't want to be in the position where we are stifling speech. Preemptive censorship is not in our interest. That's worse than even censorship. We're not going to silence our way out of problems.'" (August 12, 2008)
You still can’t write about Muhammad - "But Ms. Spellberg wasn't a fan of Ms. Jones's book. On April 30, Shahed Amanullah, a guest lecturer in Ms. Spellberg's classes and the editor of a popular Muslim Web site, got a frantic call from her. "She was upset," Mr. Amanullah recalls. He says Ms. Spellberg told him the novel "made fun of Muslims and their history," and asked him to warn Muslims." (August 5, 2008)
Why the silence? - "Both reactionary religion and militant secularism are on the rise, with both displaying a rigid certainty and a desire for power that will do nothing to benefit society. In this context, it is vital that people with open-minded faith speak up and demonstrate alternatives. [altmuslim.com has] set many good examples in this regard." (January 8, 2008)
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Sunni-Shia relations
Friction in context
Common sense says that Shii scholars make clear their rejection of the offshoot ideas ascribed to them and that Sunni scholars should not get hooked on historical debates.
By Mazen Hashem, January 21, 2008

The popular explanation of the Sunni-Shii friction is that it is a matter of sectarian religious difference. In reality, there are three fault lines trigger friction between Sunnis and Shiis: the fiqhi line, the mental image of history, and folkways. Gripped by group identity conflict, Sunni and Shii forget the ample common ground between them at the level of values and ultimate socioeconomic aims.
To the average Muslim, fiqh stands for Islam itself as it represents an easy-to-understand template of the good conduct. Most people become troubled by minor fiqhi disagreements because they are not fully aware of the extent to which there are acceptable fiqhi variations within the corpus of ulama’s work. When it comes to the Sunni-Shii divide, the average person would interpret such fiqhi variation as a deviation from Sharia itself. Interestingly, the fiqhi gap among some of the major Sunni schools is larger than the gap between the Jaafari Shii school on one hand and some Sunni schools on the other. Few may know that Jaafar al-Sadiq (the principal figure of the Jaafari school) was the teacher of Abu Hanifa, the famous Sunni scholar. He was also the son of Abu Bakr’s granddaughter.
This aspect of disagreement becomes further problematized when cast as a creedal disagreement, as a matter of aqidah, citing some offshoot ideas that were associated with Shiism. However, this is a gross miscategorization since Sunnis and Shiis mainlines totally agree on the creedal basis of Islam: oneness of Allah, the prophethood of Muhammad, the Quran as the final revealed book, etc. Notably, Imam Ashari, the foremost authoritative source of Sunni creedal issues says clearly that “we do not ascribe ‘kufr’ to any of the people of the qiblah.” It is well-known that one of the unique characteristics of Islam is that it has no institutional basis for validating the faith of people. Common sense says that Shii scholars carry the responsibility of making clear their rejection of the offshoot ideas ascribed to them and that Sunni scholars should not get hooked on historical debates.
The history image fault line
Despite the fact that Sunnis and Shiis share the same Muslim history, they have radically different constructions of such a history. The root of such disagreement does not lie simply in the differing interpretations of historical events but in the focus on different aspects of it. While the Sunni perspective is aware of the deviations that occurred in realm of politics, they focus their attention on the civilizational achievements of Muslims. Shiis, on the other hand, focus on the problem of a “stolen” leadership from those who deserve it. Such position from the Shiis enrages Sunnis as it trumps marvelous Muslim civilizational achievements, acknowledged by Muslim as well as non-Muslim scholars.
Shiis avoid talking about civilizational achievements and insist on focusing on the downside aspects: political domination and repressing Shii radical groups. For Sunnis, the claims of historical repression that are popular in Shii stories resemble urban legends that cannot stand the scrutiny of historical-scientific research. Furthermore, when Shiis gained political control in Muslim history, they were not less royal than the Sunni rulers that Shiis disparage.
In the Savadi era (1501-1722), Shiism constructed many of its customs and popular myths as an ideology to buttress political control. However, in doing so, the Shii Savadis were not very different from the Sunni Ottomans who were mustering their political control through sponsoring Sufism. It is much more defensible to relate the contemporary Shii revival to the Qajari period (1799-1925) rather to the Savadis.
The Qajari period was marked by political instability, which prompted Shii clerics to overcome their dominant norm of quietism and to get engaged in politics. In contrast, the Sunni ulama of this period had a state that spoke on their behalf and did not feel the need to be as politically engaged. Ironically, the contemporary political fragmentation in today’s Muslim countries resemble a Sunni Qajari period where Sunni clerics are showing more interest in, and willingness to engage in, politics.
The customs fault line
Muslims have lived their history in highly pluralistic settings. Therefore, different groupings of people maintained their local cultural practices, which intermixed with Islamic elements. For the average person, the folkways that are imbued with an Islamic spirit replace the root ideas of religion itself. For example, both the Sunni and the Shii go to the mosque and get a spiritual lift through listening to preaching and stories, but such preaching is of different genres and invokes the memories of different personalities. Shiis feel that Sunnis do not give due respect to ahl al-bayt, the progeny of Prophet Muhammad. Sunnis on the other hand are troubled by the thick rituals of Shiism that have the cult of saint’s properties. Sunnis have their myths too, but mainly housed in Sufism which, despite its widespread, does not represent the mainstream.
The above mentioned differences stay mute in peaceful times. However, in times of extreme uncertainty and political agitation, they intensify the conflict. Furthermore, when political violence targets venerated symbols, revenge becomes sadistic, justified on the basis of denigrating the sacred.
The Shiis of Iraq (in addition to Iraqi Kurds) carried the brunt of Saddam’s regime repression. That in turn re-enlivened the Shii identity. With the rise of political sectarianism after the fall of regime, disagreement flared on what to do with the new situation. Identities were further polarized, and each group accuses the other of being a traitor: a traitor at the time of Saddam’s regime or a contemporary traitor.
However, there is no quarrel that the Baathi regime of Saddam was a nationalistic, leftist, secular, areligious, equal-opportunity oppressor. Kurds and Shiis received most of the repression because of the degree of threat each posed to the regime, not because of creed and sect; indeed, the Kurds are overwhelming Sunnis. Yet, afterwards, identities clashed on the Sunni-Shii divide. A political conflict stemming from the disagreement on how to manage the country after the invasion has been turned into a sectarian one. Shiis cries what they label as “the silence of the majority” regarding the recent events in Iraq and the fatal aggression against Shii markets and religious sites. The Sunnis get puzzled as the perpetrators do not represent them nor do they come from its mainstream. And when Shii bandits sought revenge, they were as immoral as Sunni bandits.
The common ground
It does not take a learned person to recognize the both Sunnis and Shiis share an Islamic outlook based on the values of Islam and its social orientation. The very logic of Islam is rooted in the idea of unity of the creator and the centrality of the transcendental guidance in refining human conduct. Sunni as well as Shii lines consider that the righteous deeds of taqwa are the basis of individuals’ worth, upon which they will be responsible at the Day of Judgment. Furthermore, both lines assert collective responsibility in seeking truth at the cultural level and fighting taghoot (oppression) at the sociopolitical level. Sunni and Shii traditions revere personal purity, the family institution, and the role of motherhood. Furthermore, they converge on the centrality of the concepts of justice, mercy, and moderation, considering them as the cornerstone of the moral social order.
The Sunni-Shii historical political disagreement was, at its roots, a disagreement on the political arrangement that would preserve the values of Islam. Muslims today have the option of recognizing the common ground on which their different factions draw or to plunge into sectarian rivalry.
Mazen Hashem holds a doctoral degree in sociology. His research focuses on the Muslim communities in North America.
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The Sunni-Shia divide is just one of many sub-groupings in Islam. Sunnis themselves are split up into various divides, like wahabis, sufis, tableeghis, ikhwanis, 'self-righteous convertees' and so on on and so forth. Was one to look at these from the outside, one would get the feeling they were all from different religions or something, so little do they appear to have in common.
Its just impossible to have one billion people following the same God, just not going to happen. Unless you are Chinese of course. But religion is not something one can manufacture, so its pretty useless to the Chinese.
I jest of course, because even the Chinese are not uni-directional. If you ve ever been to a Chinatown you'd know the fact that the Chinese have absolutely no polite manners whatsover. 100 chinese in one place and it looks as if mountain goats are being chased by a lion. I always wonder what the hell did Confucius teach them then????
Anyway, the point being, that there is a sort of "critical mass" of humanity that you can align in one religious direction. Once you exceed that, I'd say about 25 million, then groups start to splinter up and worship alternatives, like their cult leaders, even the Prophet (pbuh) himself, and so on and so forth.
- Posted by Hajibaba on January 22, 2008 at 05:43 PM
>> It does not take a learned person to recognize the both Sunnis and Shiis share an Islamic outlook based on the values of Islam and its social orientation.
Unity is an Islamic responsibility. Coming to common terms with others faiths is our Islamic responsibility. Preaching in the best of ways and being a middle nation amongst humanity is our Islamic responsibility. Thank you for your valuable insights and research. While more knowledge is needed in every field, scientific-historic research regarding our roots is needed to unscramble the politics and restore/reconcile the the spiritual heart of the Ummah. Through knowledge and dialogue, we will find better means for better outcomes.
Hajibaba ... >> Its just impossible to have one billion people following the same God, just not going to happen.
Everyone worships the same God. Their reliance is on their subjective understanding of that God. And to make distinction between the one Allah of Islam (Sunni and Shia) is ... stupidly controversial and nitpicking. You want to feel better than everyone, so you make your own queue and stand upfront. Maybe you're the monster you accuse everyone else of being.
25 million critical mass ... when do you come up with this nonsense?
>> 100 chinese in one place and it looks as if mountain goats are being chased by a lion.
Not very polite speech reserved for you right now. You've got a very big mouth online.
- Posted by Ghulam (South Africa) on January 25, 2008 at 05:07 AM
>> to unscramble the politics and restore/reconcile the the spiritual heart of the Ummah. Through knowledge and dialogue, we will find better means for better outcomes. <<
Here he goes again........ Read my Lips.......
Making grandiose but pointless, Bill Clinton-Barak Obama talk.....
Ghulam for President of South Africa.......
puck puck puckakpuckak.........
Knowledge and Dialougue my yonowhat......
Firstly, the Shias are a very deceptive kind of people, they have formalized in their religion the concept of lying and deceiving to hide their true beliefs.........
Secondly, Sunni scholars who have studied shia books report they are rife with abuse and insult of the Khalafa Ar-Rashideeen.
So there is no point of holding dialogue with a people whose books if you were to study, you would find yourself being insulted every third page........
One has dialogue with open-honest-sincere people. not with shifty-secretive-deceptive people. Sunni Islam is open for all to see. We have our books, you can walk into any major city and find all the major books of Classical Islam easily available. There is no mention of or insulting of any Shias, primarily because there was no such thing as Shia until the reign of Muawiya and onwards.
- Posted by Hajibaba on January 26, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Here we go Ghulam Sahib. Here is what Shia mumbo jumbo made-up religion does. Now, the whole of Islam has been awarded the principle of lying as part of its belief system.
"Aynrandgirl:
Sorry if I misunderstood you. In any case, the principle is that a Muslim should tell the truth to a fellow Muslim, but need not to an unbeliever if he fears the consequences of telling the truth.
Robert Spencer on May 27, 2007 at 6:58 PM"
- Posted by Hajibaba on February 2, 2008 at 08:30 PM
Here we go, another non-Muslim poster attributing Shia make-believe religion as actual Islamic beliefs.
>> The proof is, in fact, to the otherwise - no special skill is required other than to read Arabic (too bad Allah couldn't have imagined English translations of the internet) or to be able to hear the "clear" recitations. Those are the words of Allah! I fear Abdullah Al-Hasan might fear "the punishment of a mighty day" by his false statements (well, unless he figures his scholarly "allusions" were meant for the infidels and munafiq - then it is a matter of taqiyya, deceit, a manner of propagandist jihad). <<<
AppleOgia, USA; Comment No. 1100081, February 3 14:21
From the Guardian "Blogging Qur'an" newsgroups.
- Posted by Hajibaba on February 3, 2008 at 02:16 PM
You know even less about Sunni fiqh than you claim to know about everything else. Good for you.. you're truly faithful that way. Its called choosing the lesser of two evils. Like the Muslims of Spain who lied to escape the inquisition, lying is bad, but being tortured and killed is worse.
Now make people believe that you actually have an investment in telling the truth instead of throwing insults around at everyone who thinks reason is important... make believe. Sometimes I think its the fact that its too hard to see the ethics in the message so your sort goes for the readers digest version of everything. I bet you work for non-muslims and it really riles you that things are going there way.
- Posted by Ghulam (South Africa) on February 6, 2008 at 03:33 PM
>> There is no mention of or insulting of any Shias, primarily because there was no such thing as Shia until the reign of Muawiya and onwards.
You actually think that Sunni Islam was developed in the time of the righteous caliphs?? Wow.. Your classical Islam is sounding more and more like the mythical tales of yore. You wouldn't know open-honest-sincere if it looked you in the eye and said "I'm the factual evidence you're ignoring". Read the article again and try and understand the factual political timeline here. Confront the factual evidence with something more than denial and random abuse of bandwidth.
- Posted by Ghulam (South Africa) on February 6, 2008 at 03:45 PM
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